{"id":17616,"date":"2024-05-29T09:46:05","date_gmt":"2024-05-29T07:46:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.univ-smb.fr\/mon-usmb\/?p=17616"},"modified":"2024-05-29T09:55:46","modified_gmt":"2024-05-29T07:55:46","slug":"des-chercheurs-dedytem-lies-a-une-decouverte-scientifique-majeure-dans-la-grotte-saint-marcel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.univ-smb.fr\/mon-usmb\/2024\/05\/29\/des-chercheurs-dedytem-lies-a-une-decouverte-scientifique-majeure-dans-la-grotte-saint-marcel\/","title":{"rendered":"Des chercheurs d\u2019EDYTEM li\u00e9s \u00e0 une d\u00e9couverte scientifique majeure dans la grotte Saint Marcel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">L\u2019\u00e9tude des alignements de concr\u00e9tions cass\u00e9es de la grotte de Saint-Marcel (Ard\u00e8che)<\/span><\/b> <b><span data-contrast=\"none\">indique qu\u2019aux alentours de 8 000 ans des groupes humains ont chemin\u00e9 de 1,5 \u00e0 3 km sous terre pour d\u00e9placer plusieurs centaines de concr\u00e9tions et les assembler. C\u2019est la premi\u00e8re fois que des chercheurs parviennent \u00e0 mettre en \u00e9vidence ce type d&rsquo;am\u00e9nagements si loin d&rsquo;une entr\u00e9e naturelle.<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Une nouvelle vision de l\u2019engagement des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s holoc\u00e8nes<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Une \u00e9quipe de chercheurs, compos\u00e9e en partie de chercheurs du laboratoire <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/edytem.osug.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Environnements, Dynamiques et Territoires de la Montagne<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> (EDYTEM), a publi\u00e9 en avril 2024 dans la revue scientifique <\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">Journal of Archaeological Method and Theory <\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\">des r\u00e9sultats innovants exposant une nouvelle vision de l\u2019engagement des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s de l\u2019\u00e9poque holoc\u00e8ne (\u00e9poque relative aux 12 000 derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es) dans les grottes profondes.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">L\u2019\u00e9quipe s\u2019est int\u00e9ress\u00e9e \u00e0 la grotte Saint-Marcel, situ\u00e9e en Ard\u00e8che, car celle-ci pr\u00e9sentait de nombreux t\u00e9moins arch\u00e9ologiques, et un terrain de recherche important (64 km de galeries). \u201cIl se trouve que dans la grotte,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\"> on a vu beaucoup de concr\u00e9tions (NB : stalactites et stalagmites), align\u00e9es au sol et organis\u00e9es, ce qui est forc\u00e9ment le fait d\u2019humains, mais on ne savait pas de quand dataient ces am\u00e9nagements (nb : transformations volontaires d\u2019un espace). C\u2019est pour essayer de comprendre cela qu\u2019on a men\u00e9 une \u00e9tude, afin de savoir, \u00e0 la fois d\u2019o\u00f9 venaient ces concr\u00e9tions, puis de trouver des strat\u00e9gies pour les dater.\u201d explique Jean-Jacques Delannoy, g\u00e9omorphologue au <a href=\"https:\/\/edytem.osug.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">laboratoire EDYTEM<\/a>.\u00a0 <\/span><br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<h2><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Une premi\u00e8re mondiale<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<figure id=\"attachment_169884\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-169884\" style=\"width: 319px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.univ-smb.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/77d848fa-3813-4cc0-a340-f1013fdac5e0-1.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-169884\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-169884\" src=\"https:\/\/www.univ-smb.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/77d848fa-3813-4cc0-a340-f1013fdac5e0-1.png\" alt=\"77d848fa 3813 4cc0 a340 f1013fdac5e0 1\" width=\"319\" height=\"365\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-169884\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #808080\">Cartographie des concr\u00e9tions dans la grotte Saint-Marcel (Cliquer sur l&rsquo;image pour l&rsquo;agrandir)<br \/><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Les recherches se sont \u00e9tal\u00e9es sur cinq ans, et ont n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 un long travail de cartographie fine de tous les secteurs, \u00e0 partir des relev\u00e9s 3D effectu\u00e9s par St\u00e9phane Jaillet, g\u00e9omorphologue au <a href=\"https:\/\/edytem.osug.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">laboratoire EDYTEM<\/a>, dans les salles de la grotte ainsi que des carottages et pr\u00e9l\u00e8vements de concr\u00e9tions permettant d\u2019effectuer des datations. Les particules noires retrouv\u00e9es dans les concr\u00e9tions, pouvant s\u2019apparenter \u00e0 de la suie provenant de torches, ont permis de confirmer l\u2019hypoth\u00e8se de la pr\u00e9sence des humains \u00e0 des p\u00e9riodes de la Pr\u00e9histoire.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cC\u2019est une premi\u00e8re mondiale car on connait ce type d\u2019am\u00e9nagements, mais jamais aussi \u00e9loign\u00e9 de la zone d\u2019entr\u00e9e. On a pu les dater \u00e0 environ 8000 ans, ce qui am\u00e8ne une nouvelle vision de l\u2019engagement de ces soci\u00e9t\u00e9s holoc\u00e8nes dans les grottes profondes.\u201d poursuit le chercheur. Ces datations, moins anciennes que<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\"> celles \u00e9tudi\u00e9es dans les grottes de Bruniquel ou Chauvet par exemple, changent ainsi radicalement les connaissances sur les incursions lointaines des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s holoc\u00e8nes dans les grottes.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\"> Comment se pr\u00e9paraient-elles \u00e0 aller sous terre, et pourquoi aussi loin ? Comment parvenaient-elles \u00e0 franchir <\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">des obstacles aujourd\u2019hui jug\u00e9s difficiles (tels que des puits)<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\"> et avec quels \u00e9quipements ? Comment parvenaient-elles \u00e0 ma\u00eetriser l\u2019\u00e9clairage sur un temps long ? Ce sont des questions qui demeurent, et qui demeureront pour certaines \u00e0 jamais \u00e9nigmatiques. Les recherches dans la grotte Saint-Marcel vont en tout cas se poursuivre.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Le fruit d\u2019un travail interdisciplinaire<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Ces cinq ans de recherches dans la grotte Saint-Marcel ont \u00e9t\u00e9 le fruit d\u2019un travail interdisciplinaire, impliquant plusieurs laboratoires : en plus des chercheurs du laboratoire EDYTEM, Edwige Pons-Branchu et Arnaud Dapoigny du <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lsce.ipsl.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l\u2019Environnement<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> (CNRS\/CEA\/Universit\u00e9 Paris Saclay) se sont occup\u00e9s de la datation. Delphine Dupuy du <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/lampea.cnrs.fr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Laboratoire <\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">M\u00e9diterran\u00e9en de Pr\u00e9histoire Europe Afrique<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> (CNRS\/Aix Marseille) a \u00e9galement apport\u00e9 son appui en tant qu\u2019arch\u00e9ologue, et S\u00e9gol\u00e8ne Vandevelde du Laboratoire d\u2019Arch\u00e9osciences et Sciences du Patrimoine (Universit\u00e9 de Sherbrooke, Canada) le sien en tant qu\u2019arch\u00e9om\u00e8tre et sp\u00e9cialiste de l\u2019\u00e9tude de suies. \u201cC\u2019est la somme de ces disciplines qui ont permis de r\u00e9soudre les questions pos\u00e9es, et de mener \u00e0 bien les recherches.\u201d conclut Jean-Jacques Delannoy.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Juliette Barnay, Hugo Burnet, et Juliette Aronovitz, tous trois \u00e9tudiants du <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/formations.univ-smb.fr\/fr\/catalogue\/master-XB\/sciences-humaines-et-sociales-SHS\/master-geographie-KGYQL4PF\/m2-geographies-espaces-homme-environnement-ressources-KGYTCUSQ.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">master G\u00e9osph\u00e8res<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> \u00e0 l\u2019USMB (<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scem.univ-smb.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">UFR Sciences et Montagne<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">) ont \u00e9galement travaill\u00e9 sur cette grotte, la choisissant comme sujet de m\u00e9moire. Jules Kemper (issu de ce m\u00eame master), alors doctorant au <a href=\"https:\/\/edytem.osug.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">laboratoire EDYTEM<\/a>, a \u00e9galement travaill\u00e9 sur la grotte dans le cadre de sa th\u00e8se qui sera soutenue dans les prochains mois.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_169881\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-169881\" style=\"width: 750px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.univ-smb.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/article-grotte-saint-marcel-2.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-169881\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-169881 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.univ-smb.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/article-grotte-saint-marcel-2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-169881\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #808080\">Vue drone de la structure majeure Colonnes<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Contact :<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"11\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"mailto:jean-jacques.delannoy@univ-smb.fr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Jean Jacques Delannoy<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> : enseignant-chercheur en g\u00e9omorphologie au <a href=\"https:\/\/edytem.osug.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">laboratoire EDYTEM<\/a><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"11\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"mailto:Christine.Piot@univ-smb.fr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Christine Piot<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> : enseignante-chercheuse en chimie de l\u2019environnement et r\u00e9f\u00e9rente communication du<a href=\"https:\/\/edytem.osug.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> laboratoire EDYTEM<\/a><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L\u2019\u00e9tude des alignements de concr\u00e9tions cass\u00e9es de la grotte de Saint-Marcel (Ard\u00e8che) indique qu\u2019aux alentours de 8 000 ans des groupes humains ont chemin\u00e9 de 1,5 \u00e0 3 km sous terre pour d\u00e9placer plusieurs centaines 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